Comments on: Fonts, JavaScript, and How Designers Design https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/ News about Typekit Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:31:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.4.1 By: Dorian https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-857 Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:31:22 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-857 When one of the major browsers needs an entirely proprietary and seperate font format to make @font-face linking possible, and when you have to download, install and use another piece of software to even create the fonts, especially when that piece of software only runs on one of the two operating systems commonly used in web design, and especially when even on that platform it’s almost unusably confusing, unstable and creepy, then of course we’re still screwing around with SIFR.

Will somebody please make a drag-and-drop ttf/otf -> .eot app? Then we can all get on with our lives. For the better part of a decade, Microsoft has held us back from doing good type on the ‘web. There’s a command-line solution in linux, what about something that Mac and Windows people can get into?

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By: Shopping Online https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-856 Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:17:13 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-856 In reply to David Kaneda.

Good old CamelCase. Nice catch, Stephen. I updated the post.

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By: manuelrazzari https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-855 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 15:15:09 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-855 In reply to manuelrazzari.

@Rebecca,

Professional _developers_ will be able to assess if a beta product is worth using in their _professional_ sites.

sIFR3 has been rock solid for years, though admittedly not straightforward to implement for someone without a minimal JavaScript knowledge.

Websites from high profile companies and high profile developers have been using it just fine.

@Veen, I don’t know if you already have, but should contact Mark Wubben. He knows this stuff. Has been debugging it for years.

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By: Rebecca https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-854 Wed, 01 Jul 2009 08:15:26 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-854 In reply to manuelrazzari.

sIFR 3 is still technically beta. Developers will not risk putting beta scripts on professional sites.

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By: Smitty https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-853 Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:19:50 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-853 Hi, what fonts are available? Or is it any font. Like if I have something in my fonts folder, can I upload that and use it on my websites with this?

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By: Matty https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-852 Thu, 25 Jun 2009 07:37:02 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-852 If there is one place where all the solutions fall, is supporting RTL (right-to-left) languages and foreign fonts.
I would really like to see one web font project that will not neglect supporting RTL

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By: Philip Taylor https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-851 Thu, 18 Jun 2009 13:41:47 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-851 In reply to Oli.

Hmm, this looks like an excellent opportunity to shamelessly promote my font subsetting code! It’s not really a usable tool by itself, but it could be used in one – it aims to handle high quality fonts (preserving ligatures etc), and it seems to work fine in practice, and if there are any problems I could probably be motivated to fix bugs and missing features 🙂

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By: Luis Wouters https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-850 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:06:06 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-850 I think integrating the font in the css sheet its more valuable, monstly because font its part of the visual, its not an effect. If you project your site with determined font, you think all the visual in the site with that: the margins, the paddings, the letter-spacing, and you’ll determine where that font will load in the css sheet, so I think the css sheet is the more apropriate place to link the font.

But what will determine the success of this project is the cross-browsebility. I, as many, project my sites, and first test in the latest versions of the browsers, but make it work in older versions, mainly in internet explorer 6 and 7, unhapply is still needed. We can’t just say to the clients of our clients that they have to atualise their browsers or they wont be able to see our site. Mostly, we can’t tell our clients that their clients has to do it. So, this is a fundamental part, becase we can’t just do two versions of the site, using image in one. So we prefer use images in both.

Other thing, It has to load fast. You must know an aplicative called ienpgfix. This is a little script that allow ie6 users to see tranparent png in the sites. But it make even in broadband the site a little, very little, but still considerable slow to load. And it kills this script.

The iniciative is really GREAT! Hope to use it as soon as possible!

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By: Harlan Lewis https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-849 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:21:05 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-849 In reply to Kevin Yank.

I’m also curious about what implementation methods turn out to be the most popular. I hope this information is released at some point, as it gives the rest of us a specialized look at how modern sites are built. While I would ideally retain direct CSS control, this might not be the case for everyone, and awareness of that would help guide future decisions.

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By: Harlan Lewis https://blog.typekit.com/2009/06/02/fonts-javascript-and-how-designers-design/#comment-848 Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:15:24 +0000 http://blog.typekit.com/?p=62#comment-848 In reply to Matt Wiebe.

Very good point Matt. I am also curious, as direct font linking implies a different model than I’d been lead to believe (JS-based licensing/DRM). Server-side makes more sense to me than a JS authentication key, but all of this is still very much in the air as far as public information goes.

Regardless, sensible automation of EOT vs OTF/TTF is a valuable feature in its own right. Anyone who’s attempted a combo @font-face/EOT solution in the past will greatly welcome a service that does it for them, even if it’s only serving freely licensed fonts.

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